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gtfotis

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 15, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 15, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 14, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.
Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.
I main jungle and mid, it's normal for mid to grab raptors when they're up to gain an exp/gold advantage while their lane is empty. Also, I start Gromp so it's also okay to let bit have golems for the early level 2

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: gtfotis on May 16, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 15, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 15, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 14, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.
Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.
I main jungle and mid, it's normal for mid to grab raptors when they're up to gain an exp/gold advantage while their lane is empty. Also, I start Gromp so it's also okay to let bit have golems for the early level 2

I always ask and they're like "F NO GO AWAY!" or they don't respond so I just go for it then they're like "now I'm losing cause you took wolves you rotten cranberry!" It's not worth the flame from my team IMO.

gtfotis

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 16, 2015, 04:15:38 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 16, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 15, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 15, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 14, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.
Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.
I main jungle and mid, it's normal for mid to grab raptors when they're up to gain an exp/gold advantage while their lane is empty. Also, I start Gromp so it's also okay to let bit have golems for the early level 2

I always ask and they're like "F NO GO AWAY!" or they don't respond so I just go for it then they're like "now I'm losing cause you took wolves you rotten cranberry!" It's not worth the flame from my team IMO.
Are you pre lvl 30 or bronze? There's just some concepts people don't understand or think they know because they saw a YouTube video or their friend is diamond, haha. But that's another thing, if you're having to deal with people like that, you're definitely doing the right thing! It's better to keep everybody in a good mood as opposed to having everybody down eachother's throats and then pointing fingers

Ekann1

I have the same problem, I'm pre 30 but play with a LOT of silver or higher 30s so I pick up things pretty quickly. Then when I solo and am back with the mid 20s things are frustrating :P

Especially that everyone bans teemo and no one knows how to deal with katarina.

Avodroc13

Quote from: gtfotis on May 16, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 15, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 15, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 14, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.
Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.
I main jungle and mid, it's normal for mid to grab raptors when they're up to gain an exp/gold advantage while their lane is empty. Also, I start Gromp so it's also okay to let bit have golems for the early level 2

I like Rammus or Amumu in jungle. I go for gromp with a leash then hit blue, back, upgrade machete and then hit red. I also love counter jungling.  Amumu is a beast counter jungling. <3

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: gtfotis on May 17, 2015, 01:48:24 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 16, 2015, 04:15:38 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 16, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 15, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on May 15, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 14, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.
Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.
I main jungle and mid, it's normal for mid to grab raptors when they're up to gain an exp/gold advantage while their lane is empty. Also, I start Gromp so it's also okay to let bit have golems for the early level 2

I always ask and they're like "F NO GO AWAY!" or they don't respond so I just go for it then they're like "now I'm losing cause you took wolves you rotten cranberry!" It's not worth the flame from my team IMO.
Are you pre lvl 30 or bronze? There's just some concepts people don't understand or think they know because they saw a YouTube video or their friend is diamond, haha. But that's another thing, if you're having to deal with people like that, you're definitely doing the right thing! It's better to keep everybody in a good mood as opposed to having everybody down eachother's throats and then pointing fingers

I'm level 20, working on AD and AP rune pages. I try to keep the peace but I engage when people flame me. And I try to be helpful but some people take it the wrong way.

redwolv

What does everyone think of ekko? I find him frustratingly fun.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: redwolv on June 06, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
What does everyone think of ekko? I find him frustratingly fun.

I haven't really seen a good Ekko yet. I've played with/against him. Not amazing not underwhelming.

I'm miles away from buying him but I think I might eventually.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 06, 2015, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 06, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
What does everyone think of ekko? I find him frustratingly fun.

I haven't really seen a good Ekko yet. I've played with/against him. Not amazing not underwhelming.

I'm miles away from buying him but I think I might eventually.
He's a valid nuker, and can set other heros up well to seriously screw the enemy.  He seems underwhelming, but he's quite great, he's just more focused on setting up others.  So positioning is key, along with some other jazz.  I don't see a lot of people procing his passive before they hit enemy heros, which is odd.  Not many people have been able to use chrono break offensively, it's a nice chunk of aoe that helps a teamfight.  He does what he should, and alone he isn't amazing, it's just a slightly different playstyle I guess

Ekann1

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 06, 2015, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 06, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
What does everyone think of ekko? I find him frustratingly fun.

I haven't really seen a good Ekko yet. I've played with/against him. Not amazing not underwhelming.

I'm miles away from buying him but I think I might eventually.
No offense meant, but you probably won't see a good ekko until you play with 30s, or at least that's what everyone tells me. ;) when I do play with 30s and there's an ekko, it's super scary... A well played ekko can be everywhere all the time doing everything. Or at least it seems like that... He seems really fun though you need lots of map awareness and mechanical skill to play him.

redwolv

I've found his W to be the trickest part of his kit, it can be used in alot of ways but that delay before it does anything keeps messing me up.

Ekann1

Yeah, exactly. He's difficult to play, but when you do it right he does ALL THE THINGS.

No, seriously he has a stun, a slow, damage, an escape, zoning potential, everything.

redwolv

Quote from: Ekann1 on June 07, 2015, 07:45:21 PM
Yeah, exactly. He's difficult to play, but when you do it right he does ALL THE THINGS.

No, seriously he has a stun, a slow, damage, an escape, zoning potential, everything.

Don't forget a dash, a closer, shield, heal, bonus damage, poke, etc. he really has a wide range of effects

Ekann1

Quote from: redwolv on June 07, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 07, 2015, 07:45:21 PM
Yeah, exactly. He's difficult to play, but when you do it right he does ALL THE THINGS.

No, seriously he has a stun, a slow, damage, an escape, zoning potential, everything.

Don't forget a dash, a closer, shield, heal, bonus damage, poke, etc. he really has a wide range of effects
Yeah, can't forget all that good stuff xD

gtfotis

Quote from: redwolv on June 06, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
What does everyone think of ekko? I find him frustratingly fun.
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