L.o.L. Anyone?

[gtfotis]

0/0/20 is godlike and it's way better than 20/20/0, no questions asked.

See that's completely my point, but most of the "popular" mainstream games 20/20 is going to be mid pack. It's a huge swing of your mental game. The idea that you can help your team win in a big way by simply not dying. It just took me a bit to change my mind set (which I still struggle with), I would assume that others have gone through the same thing. But I could be wrong.

In most games, getting killed doesn't increase your enemy's power, so you really need to keep those deaths low. You'll notice in more pro level matches that there will barely be any kills in the first twenty minutes of a match, you focus on getting as much cs as you can to gain the upper hand. If you think about it, a kill is only worth about 15 cs (without factoring in assists) the goal is 100 cs per 10 minutes for your adc/top/mid lane

[LinkCelestrial]

0/0/20 is godlike and it's way better than 20/20/0, no questions asked.

See that's completely my point, but most of the "popular" mainstream games 20/20 is going to be mid pack. It's a huge swing of your mental game. The idea that you can help your team win in a big way by simply not dying. It just took me a bit to change my mind set (which I still struggle with), I would assume that others have gone through the same thing. But I could be wrong.

In most games, getting killed doesn't increase your enemy's power, so you really need to keep those deaths low. You'll notice in more pro level matches that there will barely be any kills in the first twenty minutes of a match, you focus on getting as much cs as you can to gain the upper hand. If you think about it, a kill is only worth about 15 cs (without factoring in assists) the goal is 100 cs per 10 minutes for your adc/top/mid lane

100cs per ten minutes is ridiculous. I've heard 75 is benchmark for diamond. If you're getting 100cs per ten minutes you're playing against a really passive opponent, or you need to consider going pro.

There's a YouTuber ned Gbay99 that's helped me a lot. He has a video about how much your deaths matter and another about preventing them.

The problem is everybody is so used to playing aggressively. Especially if they start losing, get mad, then they start feeding cause they're going for revenge. 9/10 times it's better to play passively. Figure out your burst, be opportunistic and capitalize on mistakes. One of my best games I went 3/5/15. I was support and backed off on kills so the ADC got more. They got super fed and steamrolled hard. Then some noob said I suck and had a terrible score. My ADC backed me up. 😎

[Wingnut]

So, URF, best thing ever? It's frigggen amazing.

[LinkCelestrial]

So, URF, best thing ever? It's frigggen amazing.

I'm not gonna be back in time to play it. D:

[Ekann1]

So, URF, best thing ever? It's frigggen amazing.

No matter what anyone says, I WILL keep building my W (zap) based Jinx build... It's hilarious! I can duel tanks because they can't get to me when I spam my slow... It's damage also scales with AD which is awesome.

[LinkCelestrial]

So, URF, best thing ever? It's frigggen amazing.

No matter what anyone says, I WILL keep building my W (zap) based Jinx build... It's hilarious! I can duel tanks because they can't get to me when I spam my slow... It's damage also scales with AD which is awesome.

I've been wanting to use Riven. 80% CDR? Yes please!

[gtfotis]

0/0/20 is godlike and it's way better than 20/20/0, no questions asked.

See that's completely my point, but most of the "popular" mainstream games 20/20 is going to be mid pack. It's a huge swing of your mental game. The idea that you can help your team win in a big way by simply not dying. It just took me a bit to change my mind set (which I still struggle with), I would assume that others have gone through the same thing. But I could be wrong.

In most games, getting killed doesn't increase your enemy's power, so you really need to keep those deaths low. You'll notice in more pro level matches that there will barely be any kills in the first twenty minutes of a match, you focus on getting as much cs as you can to gain the upper hand. If you think about it, a kill is only worth about 15 cs (without factoring in assists) the goal is 100 cs per 10 minutes for your adc/top/mid lane

100cs per ten minutes is ridiculous. I've heard 75 is benchmark for diamond. If you're getting 100cs per ten minutes you're playing against a really passive opponent, or you need to consider going pro.

There's a YouTuber ned Gbay99 that's helped me a lot. He has a video about how much your deaths matter and another about preventing them.

The problem is everybody is so used to playing aggressively. Especially if they start losing, get mad, then they start feeding cause they're going for revenge. 9/10 times it's better to play passively. Figure out your burst, be opportunistic and capitalize on mistakes. One of my best games I went 3/5/15. I was support and backed off on kills so the ADC got more. They got super fed and steamrolled hard. Then some noob said I suck and had a terrible score. My ADC backed me up. 😎

75/10 is easy mode, 100/10, like I said, is the goal. You don't have to attain it, but it's what you strive for. Atleast during the first 20 minutes.  I've never cared personally for going "pro" or ranking really, the last time I did play ranked was season 4 and I just got to gold for my victorious Elise skin, haha. Then again, I've been playing league for about 5 years and have over 4000 games played (not something I'm proud of, haha)

[redwolv]

Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.

[LinkCelestrial]

Very well said. +1

Anybody else playing Anivia and wondering why she isn't played more? She has one of the best ults ever, and a really easy to land stun combo as well as an awesome utility spell in making a /wall/. (I'm really bad at using it but hey). I'm going to pick her up eventually.

[redwolv]

Very well said. +1

Anybody else playing Anivia and wondering why she isn't played more? She has one of the best ults ever, and a really easy to land stun combo as well as an awesome utility spell in making a /wall/. (I'm really bad at using it but hey). I'm going to pick her up eventually.

Anivia is one of those "old" champions that just don't see much play. When someone (more so for new players) is looking for a new champion who are they gonna get? A champion you have almost never seen or one you see commonly and that seems to do well.

Mordikaiser is one of my favorite mids cause he is really stong but is never seen cause he is "old" too.

Plus she is kinda trickly, she takes more practice to learn to play well with compared to other champions. Some people will try a free champion once and if they don't get a feel for them won't pick them up.

[gtfotis]

Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.

Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

[LinkCelestrial]

Ok, i am about to lay a bit of smack down on this 100cs in the first 10minates. It an't happening. Minions don't spawn till a minate 30 and after that ever 30 seconds. In the first ten minates that means a total of about 107 minions spawn per lane. If you can get 100 of them you must not have an opponent. Cause noone is gonna play that passively.
A. He sees your not fighting back and will harass you till you are zoned or have to recall.
B. You fight back but in doing so miss cs during the trade.
C. You don't to either and he kills you
D. You are him and either harrass the guy off or kill him.(best cause the kill gold makes up for missing cs, even if he recalls it means easyfarming for you and he misses cs.

The goal is not 100cs or 75 or whatever. The goal is my cs> then yours. Cause if i have only 60 but you have 30 i am winning and doing my job.

Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

My jungler flips when I touch camps.

[redwolv]

Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

Even the idea of 100 per 10 is still not happening. At the heaviest (a seige each wave) you get 140 minoins per 10 minutes. even then a good player won't get 100, why?
Cause if your doing cs still at this point, your team is facing 4v5 team fights.
I am not saying 100 is inpossible, it can be done. But to do so requires you to not be present in places it is needed. At minimum you need to get 16 waves, or 8 minates worth of spawns. That means you only have 2 minates of time to do other things. 

The goal of this game is not cs, it is not kills, the goal is destory the nexus. The cs and kills just help you. Even if each person on the team gets 100p10 they will still lose, cause the other team grouped up, played together, and pushed thr lanes to the nexus.

[LinkCelestrial]

Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

Even the idea of 100 per 10 is still not happening. At the heaviest (a seige each wave) you get 140 minoins per 10 minutes. even then a good player won't get 100, why?
Cause if your doing cs still at this point, your team is facing 4v5 team fights.
I am not saying 100 is inpossible, it can be done. But to do so requires you to not be present in places it is needed. At minimum you need to get 16 waves, or 8 minates worth of spawns. That means you only have 2 minates of time to do other things. 

The goal of this game is not cs, it is not kills, the goal is destory the nexus. The cs and kills just help you. Even if each person on the team gets 100p10 they will still lose, cause the other team grouped up, played together, and pushed thr lanes to the nexus.

Just going to point out that that's not possible as how could you farm with them pushing lanes? + is there even enough cs for 5 people to hit 100?

75cs/100mins seems reasonable. Depending on lane aggression. I've been paying more attention and I've been pretty consistently in the top three for the room.

[gtfotis]

Nobody said 100 in the first ten minutes, it's an average of 100 per 10 minutes, usually ending a game around 30 minutes with ~300 cs but 200 in the first twenty is golden. Wolves and raptors are your friends and it's easy to juggle csing while being prevalent in lane, but I agree on the my cs > yours. Maybe you're right though, the thousands of people I've laned against must have just been too passive. :^)

Even the idea of 100 per 10 is still not happening. At the heaviest (a seige each wave) you get 140 minoins per 10 minutes. even then a good player won't get 100, why?
Cause if your doing cs still at this point, your team is facing 4v5 team fights.
I am not saying 100 is inpossible, it can be done. But to do so requires you to not be present in places it is needed. At minimum you need to get 16 waves, or 8 minates worth of spawns. That means you only have 2 minates of time to do other things. 

The goal of this game is not cs, it is not kills, the goal is destory the nexus. The cs and kills just help you. Even if each person on the team gets 100p10 they will still lose, cause the other team grouped up, played together, and pushed thr lanes to the nexus.

To each their own, I'm happy with a 54% win rate. It's hard to change your ways after playing for 4 or 5 years 😅