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Started by Kaleo42, December 01, 2012, 11:22:13 PM

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Rass

Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
With the way the magic economy works black vise will probably go up some amount. Also dig is still amazing in standard.
Scg already price gouging at 30.

What do you mean? $30 a vice?

Popper23345

Maybe an alpha pr beta one....... But idk about the others

blackychan1

Quote from: Popper23345 on September 28, 2015, 06:29:16 PM
Maybe an alpha pr beta one....... But idk about the others
the FTV one. Alpha and Beta both at $100

particle

Quote from: Rass on September 28, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
With the way the magic economy works black vise will probably go up some amount. Also dig is still amazing in standard.
Scg already price gouging at 30.

What do you mean? $30 a vice?

Yea everything is either out of stock, illegal for tournament play, or 20 dollars for alt 4, 30 dollars for ftv, and 80-100 for beta and alpha. Woooo insider trading!!!!!! Not.

Falcon182

Quote from: Potticus on September 28, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: Rass on September 28, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
With the way the magic economy works black vise will probably go up some amount. Also dig is still amazing in standard.
Scg already price gouging at 30.

What do you mean? $30 a vice?

Yea everything is either out of stock, illegal for tournament play, or 20 dollars for alt 4, 30 dollars for ftv, and 80-100 for beta and alpha. Woooo insider trading!!!!!! Not.

Time to go pull my pile of them out from under my bed....  Muwahahaha

Lol except they're probably all revised and 4th ed... $2 each! Profit!

particle

Quote from: Falcon182 on September 28, 2015, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: Potticus on September 28, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: Rass on September 28, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
With the way the magic economy works black vise will probably go up some amount. Also dig is still amazing in standard.
Scg already price gouging at 30.

What do you mean? $30 a vice?

Yea everything is either out of stock, illegal for tournament play, or 20 dollars for alt 4, 30 dollars for ftv, and 80-100 for beta and alpha. Woooo insider trading!!!!!! Not.

Time to go pull my pile of them out from under my bed....  Muwahahaha

Lol except they're probably all revised and 4th ed... $2 each! Profit!

Note that star city games does not update the price of an item until they have it in stock. So the fact that those editions are priced at 3 dollars is pretty insignificant.

blackychan1

So, I may be wrong. And the people around me may be insanely lucky... But I'm not so sure that holding on to the expeditions is a good idea in the long run. I've seen a total of 13 of them opened since prerelease, and I feel that if this is happening everywhere, then the prices very well could plummet.... The only thing that has convinced me otherwise is SCGs buyout of them.

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: blackychan1 on September 29, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
So, I may be wrong. And the people around me may be insanely lucky... But I'm not so sure that holding on to the expeditions is a good idea in the long run. I've seen a total of 13 of them opened since prerelease, and I feel that if this is happening everywhere, then the prices very well could plummet.... The only thing that has convinced me otherwise is SCGs buyout of them.
I was at two prerelease a and saw probably 200 packs opened. 0 expeditions

blackychan1

We, at my rather small prereleases (Al's card shop in Edmond, OK) had 4 at the midnight one more in a prize pack, 1 at the noon, 2 In prize packs, and 2 at the 6:00. Then the Judge/host got paid in packs for working it. He pulled 1. And a friend of mine, who is very new at the game, pulled the Arid Mesa in Tulsa (an hour away from me), and traded it for the new UW land expedition (for his standard deck).

blackychan1

Did the prerelease boxes have a higher chance of opening them?

DirtyMustachio

Quote from: blackychan1 on September 29, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Did the prerelease boxes have a higher chance of opening them?

That's what I suspect

Kaylesh

Quote from: Potticus on September 29, 2015, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: particle on September 29, 2015, 01:17:20 AM
Quote from: Falcon182 on September 28, 2015, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: Potticus on September 28, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: Rass on September 28, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: particle on September 28, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
With the way the magic economy works black vise will probably go up some amount. Also dig is still amazing in standard.
Scg already price gouging at 30.

What do you mean? $30 a vice?

Yea everything is either out of stock, illegal for tournament play, or 20 dollars for alt 4, 30 dollars for ftv, and 80-100 for beta and alpha. Woooo insider trading!!!!!! Not.

Time to go pull my pile of them out from under my bed....  Muwahahaha

Lol except they're probably all revised and 4th ed... $2 each! Profit!

Note that star city games does not update the price of an item until they have it in stock. So the fact that those editions are priced at 3 dollars is pretty insignificant.

Unlimited and revised but I have a few


Which is 4th and revised?
4th has a 1995 in the copyright bar. Revised only C - artist. That and different rules text.
{black vise}, tag name to browse the different editions.

griffin131

Quote from: blackychan1 on September 29, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
So, I may be wrong. And the people around me may be insanely lucky... But I'm not so sure that holding on to the expeditions is a good idea in the long run. I've seen a total of 13 of them opened since prerelease, and I feel that if this is happening everywhere, then the prices very well could plummet.... The only thing that has convinced me otherwise is SCGs buyout of them.
6 packs per person, we had 32, 30, and 44 people... We saw 3 the first night, 2 the second and 2 or 3 the third.

Kaylesh

Quote from: griffin131 on September 29, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on September 29, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
So, I may be wrong. And the people around me may be insanely lucky... But I'm not so sure that holding on to the expeditions is a good idea in the long run. I've seen a total of 13 of them opened since prerelease, and I feel that if this is happening everywhere, then the prices very well could plummet.... The only thing that has convinced me otherwise is SCGs buyout of them.
6 packs per person, we had 32, 30, and 44 people... We saw 3 the first night, 2 the second and 2 or 3 the third.
With a case being 6x36 = 216 packs, and the estimate of one per case, .463% would be the average chance per pack.
3/192 = 1,563%
2/180 = 1,111%
2/264 = .758%

All in all, those results are higher then expected, provided the estimates are correct.
Need more results to say anything sensible though.
Marketing-wise it would be a great move to sell even more product. Seeing them pulled at an event with such a (relative) small pool of 6, makes buying a few boosters just to try and get lucky more likely.
Does mean estimated value of the set will drop. For the expeditions, I don't think it will matter too much. If you pulled one, you'll always profit.
For speccing, this is s bad time to get on, but that goes for pretty much everything just after prerelease.

MuggyWuggy