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Infinite Loyalty Abilities

Started by Indianslayer, August 18, 2015, 05:42:16 AM

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Indianslayer

(Hoping no one has posted this)
What you need for this is:
{Nissa, Worldwake}
{The Chain Veil}
{Ral Zarek}
4x {Forest}


Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied

Deebiia

Quote from: Indianslayer on August 18, 2015, 05:42:16 AM
(Hoping no one has posted this)
What you need for this is:
{Nissa, Worldwake}
{The Chain Veil}
{Ral Zarek}
4x {Forest}



Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
That's awesome. I believe this works too, especially since {The Chain Veil}'s wording is "as if no loyalty abilities has been activated this turn".

Kaylesh

Seems totally legit.
To actually profit, add another walker or finish up with ult of Nissa & Ral..
(Hi there infinite turns & animated forests)

LinkCelestrial

You can also use {Tezzeret, the Seeker} instead of {Ral Zarek}.

Balefire Hellkite


Kaylesh

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 18, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
You can also use {Tezzeret, the Seeker} instead of {Ral Zarek}.
In fact, you could even use {aphetto alchemist} + {illusionist's bracers} for the untap.
However, infinite +1 into extra turns is sweet synergy.

LinkToThePast

Add {Ugin, The Spirit Dragon} to the mix for Infinate damage

Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Deal 3 damage with Ugin's +2
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied

Kaylesh

Quote from: LinkToThePast on August 24, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Add {Ugin, The Spirit Dragon} to the mix for Infinate damage

Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Deal 3 damage with Ugin's +2
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
Could even add ORI Chandra. Cheaper on mana, though a bit more effort in flipping.
But any PW will do, since every one of them has infinite activations.

particle

Ran this in standard for a while while it was legal. {zhur-ta druid} wrecked so much face and {realmwright} turned all my lands into forests so {Nissa, worldwaker} got a lot better. What a fun deck. I think I actually got the combo off only like 5-6 times, sometimes just winning with {Kiora, crashing waves} and lots of counter and bounce, (miss you <3 {simic charm}).  {ral zarek} is also kind of op.

theravenseye


Elisha72

Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target 

Kaylesh

Quote from: Elisha72 on September 05, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target
So? Then you tap Ral and untap veil. You can tap any permanent on the field.

griffin131

Quote from: Elisha72 on September 05, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target
What text?  That's not what Ral says at all - there's no "may".
And it's not like that text changes anything.

Second, what bearing does your comment have on the thread?

LinkCelestrial

Actually that's not the text. You can tap an already tapped permanent. Nowhere in his text does it say "tap an untapped permanent". Of course it just makes sense to tap down your opponents board state instead.