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Title: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 15, 2015, 02:05:15 PM
Because y'all are geeking out too much in other threads.

Feel free to discuss all potential lore.

Example: godsend and elspeth

Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 15, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 15, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
That being said anyone know where Emrakul is or is it just float/stalking its way to hover over innistraad and cast a shadow...
I can't remember which BoZ card it is, but the flavor of said card refered to Emrakul as "her"
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 15, 2015, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on December 15, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
@Llama YOU GOT SERVED! ^^^^^^^^^^

LAST I CHECKED, a super crazy space battle between the Phyrexian and eldrazi would be dope
Phyrexians compleate Eldrazi, which in turn raises Yawgmoth!!!

Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 15, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 15, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
That being said anyone know where Emrakul is or is it just float/stalking its way to hover over innistraad and cast a shadow...
I can't remember which BoZ card it is, but the flavor of said card refered to Emrakul as "her"
In regards to the card earlier, {Vestige of Emrakul} stats that Emrakul is female. So if she is going to Innistrad, that sets up a war between Liliana, Avacyn and her.... Hmmmm

Ulamog is male, as stated on {Processor Assault}
Kozilek is unknown at this time
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 15, 2015, 06:20:03 PM
Successful thread is successful
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 15, 2015, 08:06:09 PM
I mean if you like getting your efforts thwarted
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Distriimuir on December 15, 2015, 11:14:29 PM
I guess technically their all still possibly one being. In one of the uncharted realms it mentioned that the eldrazi may just be projections of a higher being on a plane. Casting it's "shadow". Emmy could be an arm, kozi a leg, etc.

Just going by uncharteds and stuff Doug and maro have said.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 16, 2015, 01:06:18 AM
Think it becomes an unglued card aka BFM
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 16, 2015, 04:03:04 AM
Magic equivalent of exzodia from yugioh
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 16, 2015, 07:45:09 AM
It has been done before with {spirit of the night} and {viashino dragon}. Sac smaller creatures to put the big guy out. {urborg Panther}, {feral shadow} & {breath stealer} for spirit. I loved it.

And stickied thread.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 16, 2015, 01:20:02 PM
Lore - not create a card

😜
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 16, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 16, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 16, 2015, 12:49:33 PM
What did you have to sac to summon the Viashino Dragon?

And there was also that white Herald of that angel, sac a {W} creature, a {U} creature, and a {G} creature, go get angel

{Spitting Drake} and {Kyscu Drake}

{Angel's Herald}
That's the one. And I was wrong about the name. It's {viashivan dragon}.
Cruelty arises from opportunity, but that's great flavor there. Abilities + casting cost is the sum of the sacrificed creatures.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Distriimuir on December 16, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 16, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
So what about the idea that the eldrazi are a manifested form of the blind eternities.

think about it, they are unknowable, they hunger, they "know" they are not supposed to be "here" but are supposed to be "elsewhere" (see drana story as she fed off a Sire of stagnation), they live in between planes
The blind eternities are unfathomable to all but walkers, it tries to tear apart anyone who passes through it, it only exists between planes.


Perhaps the eldrazi are the blind eternities attempt to halt walkers from messing with the planes, so it strikes out at the greatest source of mana it can find, Zendikar, and manifests as these nearly formless mindless creatures of madness that only know hunger, and they are not truly killable because they are merely projections of something else far greater....

Running as this is true, why would bolas want them released? Even he would be devoured by the "blind eternities" entity.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 17, 2015, 05:09:25 AM
Remember, the Eldrazi were led to Zendikar by Sorin, Nahiri and Ugin...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Mattacheu on December 17, 2015, 09:26:00 AM
Wasent it that Nissa wanted to prove her self for some reason, by summoning an powerful creature and defeating it? Isent that how the eldrazi came? I might be crazy, but I think I remember reading that on the origins pre-prelease packs X/
Edit: read that, and everything made sense again.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 17, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 17, 2015, 07:19:28 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 17, 2015, 05:09:25 AM
Remember, the Eldrazi were led to Zendikar by Sorin, Nahiri and Ugin...

Where is the link to that lore? I thought they were rampaging there when the 3 put together a plan to trap them...
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Eldrazi
Great wiki for mtg.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 17, 2015, 10:31:55 AM
Yup. Pretty much.
If I'm not mistaken the whole sealing of the Eldrazi is what caused the roil too.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on December 17, 2015, 10:32:00 AM
Nahiri actually sealed the Eldrazi and gave the greatest defense, the Hedrons. You know who did kill Zendikar though? Nissa. I do remember lore about the Eldrazi awakening when Jace, Chandra and Sarkhan fought over the ghostfire scroll thing they woke them up. Don't know what's cannon but it sounds like Nissa being stupid.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 17, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on December 17, 2015, 10:32:00 AM
Nahiri actually sealed the Eldrazi and gave the greatest defense, the Hedrons. You know who did kill Zendikar though? Nissa. I do remember lore about the Eldrazi awakening when Jace, Chandra and Sarkhan fought over the ghostfire scroll thing they woke them up. Don't know what's cannon but it sounds like Nissa being stupid.
Nissa thought they'd leave. She thought wrong.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on December 17, 2015, 10:38:18 AM
The whole plan was to sacrifice a mana rich plane to save the multiverse.
Like luring a kid to a candy shop and then locking the door.
Then a sentient candy cane throws in a window, hoping the kid would run home, or go to other shops. But the kid just hasn't had enough yet, so he continues eating.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on December 19, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on December 19, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
Can somebody -pleaseeee- explain to me how sorin got his spark? Like furrr-real I refuse to believe and accept that sorin is just one of those planeswalkers with no back story... Ugin too. I don't want to just accept that they're super powerful beings
I can't remember ugins but i know sorins.
Sorin was the apprentice of an alchemist who made a deal with a demon(i think one of the same ones that liliana did). The alchemist became a sanguinmancer and then porcided to make sorin into one to. The shock of turning into a vampire/sanguinmancer cause his spark to ignite.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on December 19, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on December 19, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Oh that's dark..    damnnnn.  Anybody know how Nicol Bolas got his spark? Sometime between him being an elder dragon and present day I assume.
It happened during the elderdragon war. Thats all i know though.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 19, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: redwolv on December 19, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on December 19, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Oh that's dark..    damnnnn.  Anybody know how Nicol Bolas got his spark? Sometime between him being an elder dragon and present day I assume.
It happened during the elderdragon war. Thats all i know though.
Thousands of years before the Brothers' War, the Elder Dragons were engaged in a conflict that tore the fabric of countless planes. Nicol Bolas emerged victorious, though there were survivors other than himself, and during the crescendo of the war, became a planeswalker.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 31, 2015, 02:13:38 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 31, 2015, 12:17:23 PM
Oath of Jace Flavor Text

"For the sake of the Multiverse, I will keep watch"

I know the set is Oath of the Gatewatch

but what exactly do we think this means???
Zendikar dies. Eldrazi go off to parts unknown. Jace keeps the watch, waiting for Eldrazi to appear again.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Distriimuir on January 13, 2016, 04:00:36 PM
In the new uncharted realms ( or whatever the new things called lol) tazir saw a very messed up zenkidar future. Obviously it couldn't end like that, but was a cool side part d the story. Wonder where the oath takers are currently.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on January 13, 2016, 11:32:37 PM
Jace finds a way to bind the Eldrazi, Nissa does so, Gideon holds off the small fry and Chandra throws Kozzy and Ulamog on the Barbie and everyone celebrates over crispy Eldrazi and  glasses of fanboy tears.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on January 14, 2016, 12:02:22 PM
No. They bind them in reality, then she burns them.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Distriimuir on January 14, 2016, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 14, 2016, 04:39:20 PM
The feels
that explains the Halo around her neck...

When she got hit by kozilek's wail and was looking at that part of her timeline,I thought her reliving the experience was going to ignite her spark. Lol. Story was awesome.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: mickeven on January 15, 2016, 11:47:54 AM
The end of the story depicted her card abilities pretty well, which was pretty cool in itself. I think this uncharted realms would make an awesome movie! (or part of one)!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on March 09, 2016, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 09, 2016, 02:34:38 PM
{Bruna, Light Alabaster}, {Sigarda, Host of Herons}, and {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight} are all "Sisters".

But there was once a fourth sister...
The head of Flight Moonsilver?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on March 09, 2016, 02:54:34 PM
Look at there coloring and set. Avacyn was pure white, bruna WU, sigarda was WG, and Gisela WR. The demon pact making sister would finish the cycle with WB but well noble just explained why she is not in the set. Cool.

Kinda wish we had got her though. Would be cool to have a legendary WB angel.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on March 09, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: redwolv on March 09, 2016, 02:54:34 PM
Look at there coloring and set. Avacyn was pure white, bruna WU, sigarda was WG, and Gisela WR. The demon pact making sister would finish the cycle with WB but well noble just explained why she is not in the set. Cool.

Kinda wish we had got her though. Would be cool to have a legendary WB angel.
A commander that {Angel of Despair}s? A man can hope right?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on March 09, 2016, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 09, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: redwolv on March 09, 2016, 02:54:34 PM
Look at there coloring and set. Avacyn was pure white, bruna WU, sigarda was WG, and Gisela WR. The demon pact making sister would finish the cycle with WB but well noble just explained why she is not in the set. Cool.

Kinda wish we had got her though. Would be cool to have a legendary WB angel.
A commander that {Angel of Despair}s? A man can hope right?
But, {Selenia, Dark Angel} doesn't want competition.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Aladormax on March 09, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Nahiri? Causing the crazy?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Aladormax on March 09, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
That sounds plausible. The focus will be on jace and tamiyo doing the thing, but nahiri will be involved somehow.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 24, 2016, 01:09:28 AM
They chant and the tide rises. There's another flavour text talking about how the tides ignore the moon...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on April 02, 2016, 09:24:47 PM
What I was wondering was what of the fourth sister of the three angels that came (sigarda, etc...), is she going to come into play in eldritch moon, because she was mentioned in the soi story. 

Also with Bruna, and Gisela not being in this set, do you think they will be in the next set or did Sorin kill them along with Avacyn
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on April 02, 2016, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on April 02, 2016, 09:24:47 PM
What I was wondering was what of the fourth sister of the three angels that came (sigarda, etc...), is she going to come into play in eldritch moon, because she was mentioned in the soi story. 

Also with Bruna, and Gisela not being in this set, do you think they will be in the next set or did Sorin kill them along with Avacyn
I don't think all the angel's are bad guys.  {Sigarda, Heron's Grace} doesn't have blood stained wings like many of the flavor texts and artworks referencing the Angels. They will likely come back in the next set assuming they didn't didn't turn like Avacyn.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on April 03, 2016, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 03, 2016, 01:58:35 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on April 02, 2016, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on April 02, 2016, 09:24:47 PM
What I was wondering was what of the fourth sister of the three angels that came (sigarda, etc...), is she going to come into play in eldritch moon, because she was mentioned in the soi story. 

Also with Bruna, and Gisela not being in this set, do you think they will be in the next set or did Sorin kill them along with Avacyn
I don't think all the angel's are bad guys.  {Sigarda, Heron's Grace} doesn't have blood stained wings like many of the flavor texts and artworks referencing the Angels. They will likely come back in the next set assuming they didn't didn't turn like Avacyn.

Sigarda didn't turn and the 4th sister was slain by avacyn long ago
Sigarda was the only one that didn't turn, Bruna and Gisela did.
Yeah she was slain, but maybe she could come back.  This is innistraid where nothing truly dies.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on April 04, 2016, 10:45:58 PM
New theory: Nicol Bolas on Innistrad.

Just like him to turn Avacyn, and he did send Sarkhan to Zendikar to unknowingly help wake up the Eldrazi for a reason...and a fight between two hella powerful Planeswalkers could only be good for him. (Sorin and Nahiri).

Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on April 05, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 04, 2016, 10:45:58 PM
New theory: Nicol Bolas on Innistrad.

Just like him to turn Avacyn, and he did send Sarkhan to Zendikar to unknowingly help wake up the Eldrazi for a reason...and a fight between two hella powerful Planeswalkers could only be good for him. (Sorin and Nahiri).
Would be hella sweet. I just wonder what his motivation would be.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on April 05, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
I've seen his art there
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on April 05, 2016, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: redwolv on April 05, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 04, 2016, 10:45:58 PM
New theory: Nicol Bolas on Innistrad.

Just like him to turn Avacyn, and he did send Sarkhan to Zendikar to unknowingly help wake up the Eldrazi for a reason...and a fight between two hella powerful Planeswalkers could only be good for him. (Sorin and Nahiri).
Would be hella sweet. I just wonder what his motivation would be.
It's Nicol Bolas, he just kinda likes messing everything up. It would kind of explain why Liliana is there too, if she is working with Nicol Bolas again.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on April 05, 2016, 12:17:06 PM
Ay yo nahiri lemme tell you the "truth" about sorin and ugin
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on April 05, 2016, 12:36:26 PM
I think he's trying to regain his God spark(Nicol bolas that is) and by either absorbing both Sorins and Nahiris spark which are both equally ancient or by using Nahiri to draw emrakul to this plain and absorb her. I think emrakul is all powerful now that the blind eternities don't have to split its power between the three anymore. So the blind eternities are all focused inside of emrakul therefore she is truly godly. This is what Nicol bolas may have initially intended since day one in releasing them. I mean he did the same when he focused all the energy into one on Alara.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on April 05, 2016, 01:17:59 PM
So eldrich moon has emmy show up, the .poo. hits the fan and bolas swoops in to claim the prize, next block has him getting chased down?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on April 06, 2016, 12:01:04 AM
Quote from: redwolv on April 05, 2016, 01:17:59 PM
So eldrich moon has emmy show up, the .poo. hits the fan and bolas swoops in to claim the prize, next block has him getting chased down?
Yup!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on April 06, 2016, 01:12:54 AM
The question is, could he actually absorb it?

Would they be able to stop him of he does?

I don't see it happening without at least one of the "good" walkers on Innistrad dying.

Gotta remember Lilliana wants to be pre-mending powerful too. (Maybe her and Nicol Bolas share somehow.)
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on April 06, 2016, 09:37:46 AM
It would be an interesting twist. I just don't think Bolas would work so hard to release those octopus bastards all for nothing. He has to have some plan in store for them.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on April 06, 2016, 09:52:45 AM
Id like more Bolas.
As for lili being on Innistrad however, it has kinda become her new home plane.
Lilliana is interested in staving off death, however, so if she'd have information on regaining pre-mending power, she'd act on it.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on April 15, 2016, 01:35:23 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on April 14, 2016, 11:47:30 AM
Something along the lines of exiling kozilek, ulamog and Emrakul from your dexk to cast it. And have it be some crazy costing mofo
I don't think pre-mending planeswalkers could ever be balanced, card-wise.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on April 15, 2016, 02:18:06 AM
I  think it would be cool to make it into like a mini challenge in game. Like

Nicol bolas, reforged spark

When you cast ~, place it in exile. When a creature your enemy control dies place a  counter on ~. When there are 3 or more counters on ~ put him onto the battlefield.

Planeswalker powers
Power 2
Etc.


Might be overly complacated but i think it would be fun to have powerful walkers but you actually have to gain their loyality one way or another. Like liliana might you to return a creature card from the grave or jace wants you to mill X cards.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on April 15, 2016, 03:42:03 AM
Quote from: redwolv on April 15, 2016, 02:18:06 AM
I  think it would be cool to make it into like a mini challenge in game. Like

Nicol bolas, reforged spark

When you cast ~, place it in exile. When a creature your enemy control dies place a  counter on ~. When there are 3 or more counters on ~ put him onto the battlefield.

Planeswalker powers
Power 2
Etc.


Might be overly complacated but i think it would be fun to have powerful walkers but you actually have to gain their loyality one way or another. Like liliana might you to return a creature card from the grave or jace wants you to mill X cards.
It could be great, a double-faced Walker, with exile-transform as first ultimate, then you get the god-Walker.

The exile mechanic would be super-fragile in standard with processors.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on April 15, 2016, 11:56:50 AM
True. But i didn't know where else to stick the guy while you convinced them to follow you. Command zone?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on April 27, 2016, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 27, 2016, 03:03:20 PM
So Nahiri has Ghoulcaller Gisa raise her an army of zombies to build the structure at the Drownyard that is causing the Angels to lose their .poo. and mess with he mana of the entire plane... Man Sorin has got his work cut out for him...

Oh .poo.. But that means it's reversible? Also Vampires vs Zombies war. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: StrayKnight on April 28, 2016, 08:50:15 AM
If a zombie bites a human, and is then bitten by a vampire, what does that make him?

Zombies VS Vampires
"Whoever wins, we lose."
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on April 28, 2016, 09:52:08 AM
Quote from: StrayKnight on April 28, 2016, 08:50:15 AM
If a zombie bites a human, and is then bitten by a vampire, what does that make him?

Zombies VS Vampires
"Whoever wins, we lose."
In magic lore, being bitten by a zombie doesn't really matter that much. They aren't infected or anything, just risen corpses. So, a human surviving an encounter with a zombie to run into a vamp it would likely be either dead, or turned.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on April 28, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
In generic vampire lore, vampires can make ghouls or other vampires, depending on how much they drained from you, virginity etc.

I would think similarly of maybe {Kalitas, traitor of ghet}

Seems he can also make ghouls
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on April 28, 2016, 01:52:11 PM
Nyah =p it's all "zombie tokens" to me lol
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on May 05, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
What sbout if someone it bitten by both a werewolf and vampire?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on May 05, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 05, 2016, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 05, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
What sbout if someone it bitten by both a werewolf and vampire?
I thought we already discussed this somewhere...
You discused zombie and vampire. I am eondering about werewolf and vampire(a bite that would make them a vampire not a one of the minions)
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on May 05, 2016, 06:16:12 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 05, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
OMG yesterday lore story

St. Traft manifesting and choosing Thalia.... whew goosebumps, well written
Does this likely mean some white / blue Thalia coming next set?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 12, 2016, 04:25:37 PM
QuoteThe air filled with the smell of rotting meat. Avacyn's light did not dim, but the sense of glory vanished from it; the light was cold, sickening, oily, and cruel.

So Phyrexia after all??
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on May 12, 2016, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 12, 2016, 04:25:37 PM
QuoteThe air filled with the smell of rotting meat. Avacyn's light did not dim, but the sense of glory vanished from it; the light was cold, sickening, oily, and cruel.

So Phyrexia after all??
Source?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 12, 2016, 06:09:04 PM
{Glistening Oil}, {Steady Progress}.

Steady progress's flavour text makes reference to oil and the picture is off water. Lines up a bit too nicely...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: redwolv on May 12, 2016, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 12, 2016, 04:25:37 PM
QuoteThe air filled with the smell of rotting meat. Avacyn's light did not dim, but the sense of glory vanished from it; the light was cold, sickening, oily, and cruel.

So Phyrexia after all??
Source?
The latest story.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 12, 2016, 06:09:04 PM
{Glistening Oil}, {Steady Progress}.

Steady progress's flavour text makes reference to oil and the picture is off water. Lines up a bit too nicely...
I do agree it isn't always glistening oil.
The story is great though, arcing anticipation all around.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 16, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
The "new" plane for the upcoming block has been announced: "Kaladesh". We caught a glimpse in Origins, but we return to the thopter plane.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on May 18, 2016, 05:59:13 PM
Avacyn is no more....
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 18, 2016, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on May 18, 2016, 05:59:13 PM
Avacyn is no more....

{Anguished Unmaking}

We've known that for a while.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on May 18, 2016, 07:11:36 PM
But we didn't know there that it would be so sad!!!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on May 18, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
Let's not forget how beast Sorin is BTW. He's a powerful powerful powerful individual.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 19, 2016, 02:30:02 AM
Quote from: Codester1991 on May 18, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
Let's not forget how beast Sorin is BTW. He's a powerful powerful powerful individual.
As he admits somewhat less powerful after the Mending. (I cannot create another Helvault or another you).

So now we have a cliffhanger, something's inbound threatening the plane, with Avacyn gone it can manifest.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on May 19, 2016, 09:07:47 AM
A phyrexian emrakul
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on May 19, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
Gotta be the gnomes
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on May 19, 2016, 11:01:09 AM
Squirrels finally arrive! Riding thopters because they already took over kaladesh!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on May 19, 2016, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on May 19, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
Gotta be the gnomes
Anything but the  {Bottle Gnomes}!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 19, 2016, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 19, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on May 19, 2016, 11:01:09 AM
Squirrels finally arrive! Riding thopters because they already took over kaladesh!
Damn yo
That escalated quickly
Least they can block Emrakul now...
Reminds me of a Cardboard Crack I saw pass by not too long ago.
Emrakul gets swarmed by squirrels, killing her.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on May 20, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 19, 2016, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 19, 2016, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 19, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on May 19, 2016, 11:01:09 AM
Squirrels finally arrive! Riding thopters because they already took over kaladesh!
Damn yo
That escalated quickly
Least they can block Emrakul now...
Reminds me of a Cardboard Crack I saw pass by not too long ago.
Emrakul gets swarmed by squirrels, killing her.

they got to fly somehow
They were jumping in the picture, but yeah, mechanics fail.
Emmy is hard on cartoonists. Even the tragic slip one missed the fact she couldn't be targeted by it...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on May 20, 2016, 03:32:20 PM
I'm gonna leave this here.
{Eldrazi Monument}
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 16, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: Aladormax on March 09, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Nahiri? Causing the crazy?
Alador called that one.
Whatever it is, Nahiri is behind it.
Emmy starts to become more likely now, as Nahiri was the one luring the Eldrazi in the first place.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 16, 2016, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 16, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
You wanted to know why Nahiri was pissedboff at Sorin?

That's because when the Titans started to wake she asked for help, neither Ugin nor Sorin came.

After she settled them down she went to find him.
Not only did he brush her off, he shoved her into the Helvault as the first prisoner.

And left her there.

When the Helvault finally cracked, Zendikar was already under siege, Bela Ged was gone and both Titans walker the plane and Emrakul was MIA...



I'd be pissed too
Totally rooting for Nahiri over Sorin too.
"We made a deal".
- Yeah, I know, but I disconnected my phone since I was tired from working on not having to care about our problem for myself.
- What about us?
- *shove*

And then the warped version Sorin told earlier...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 16, 2016, 05:41:44 PM
Sorin and Nahiri are among my favourite walkers. Have been for forever. I don't want them to kill each other...

But team Nahiri wtf Sorin you jerk.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 16, 2016, 08:20:40 PM
Don't forget Sorin went to Zendikar to stop the eldrazi too. Nahiri's wasn't there when he showed up, only Ugin.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 16, 2016, 09:05:28 PM
My feels. D:
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 17, 2016, 03:11:51 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 16, 2016, 08:27:40 PM
Fluffy
The eldrazi were never on Zendikar before Nahiri reluctantly agreed to lure them threre to trap them.

It's always been her, sometimes actively, sometimes "resting" in the eye and maintaining the wards, but it has always been here protecting Zendikar. Up until Sorin failed to heed her call (in fact he ignored/blocked it) and when she came to inquire he turned into Sorin, D-bag of the millennium, and stuffed her in a silver "rock". Only then did Zendikar fall.

So not only could he be blamed for not heeding the call for aid, but he directly hindered the only protector from sustaining her vigil over the plane. He is directly to blame for the desolation of Zendikar.

It is only fitting that Nihiri reap her vengence in a similar manner. Sorin had the Helvault destroyed, which was part of him, then he had to unmake avacyn, which was half of him, at this point all he has left is himself and the plane he calls home, and Nihiri is about to take he latter, and maybe the former.

This is a quote from mtg salvation under Sorin Makarov's lore on http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Sorin_Markov

"Some centuries later the Eldrazi managed to free themselves from their prison ethereally but not physically. Unable to depart, they started to consume Zendikar from within. Feeling the seal weakening, Sorin returned to the plane to imprison them once more."

There is more after it expanding on this, how Sorin went to Zendikar after the seal weakened and Ugin and Nahiri didn't show up.  Then in the alternate timeline, after Sarkhan saves Ugin, Sorin meets with Ugin after the seal weakens.  Ugin tells Sorin to go to Innistrad and find Nahiri.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 17, 2016, 06:13:48 AM
There are several different instances of the bonds weakening before they fail because of Bolas' directions.
After the imprisonment, Nahiri fought these alone, as evidenced by her recollections in the latest story.
She then travelled to Inistrad to confront Sorin, who shoved her in the Helvault.
Years after, the seal was broken during the events in RoE. Only then, Sorin went to Zendikar.
After that, he awakened Ugin on Tarkir who told him to find Nahiri.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 23, 2016, 05:31:52 PM
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/emrakul-rises
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 23, 2016, 05:32:13 PM
This gave me chills!
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 24, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
I miss elspeth =(
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 26, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on June 24, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
I miss elspeth =(
Well, her love struck a deal with Erebos. There's hope for her yet...
Elspeth, the Returned.

Though normally Returned don't retain the memories of their former life and are cursed to never achieve their goals, the deal Erebos strikes could be that she takes revenge on Heliod.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 26, 2016, 01:25:36 PM
Ugh but she's a walker so who knows what may become of her
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 26, 2016, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on June 26, 2016, 01:25:36 PM
Ugh but she's a walker so who knows what may become of her
Well, Gideon is from Theros, so odds are we'll be returning.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 08:51:13 PM
..
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 28, 2016, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 08:51:13 PM
..
Say what?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 29, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
What about ajani? I bet he's down with the good guy club what y'all think?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on June 29, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
What about ajani? I bet he's down with the good guy club what y'all think?
Ajani would be in the "rescue Elspeth" camp. He is currently engaged in a campaign against the gods, as we left Theros.
Gideon having been a champion of Heliod in his youth, it could be that Gideon returns to prevent this campaign, if the destruction of the gods would be a bad thing for the general populace of Theros.
Say the Nyx would collapse when all the gods are disbelieved, and in its collapse destroy the plane. In that case I can see Ajani as the threat to the plane, even if unaware of the results of his actions.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: mickeven on June 29, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
If we go back to Theros I hope Ashioks story line is big part of it. Maybe causing nightmares to Ajani that make him paranoid and cause his war against the gods
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 29, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
If we go back to Theros I hope Ashioks story line is big part of it. Maybe causing nightmares to Ajani that make him paranoid and cause his war against the gods
Well, Ajani has already vowed revenge on Heliod for killing Elspeth, but Ashiok could play a role in that fight on the Nyx side.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Nephalia on June 29, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
I hope ashiok is seen later helping bolas destroy some minds and terrorize a new plane. Or at least expand on what it's back story is
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on July 04, 2016, 05:45:38 PM
 I don't think Lilliana  actually joins  The gate watch. While all the other oath cards have magic aura in their hands for the art. But for lili's she just has her hand up. No magic cloaking it. I think she just pretends to.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: rarehuntertay on July 05, 2016, 10:59:46 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 05, 2016, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 04, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
I dont think so man, an oath is an oath.

Except when it's words given under duress, then it's an empty promise for fully extracted under the circumstances...

;)
Besides, look at her flavor text...
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: redwolv on July 05, 2016, 01:28:37 PM
Sounded to me like she was being sarcastic.
"Fine, I promise" (but not really)
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 05, 2016, 03:43:46 PM
She's serious, plus she's very protective of Jace. Also check the flavor of the white plainswalker spell, it's about her and Gideon not seeing eye to eye, but still fighting back to back
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 05, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Besides how else will we evolve the story into a marvel rip off?

Captain Gatewatch: Civil War

Camp Gideon
Camp Liliana
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on July 06, 2016, 03:06:18 PM
Sorin got that butt whooped(kinda)
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Nephalia on July 06, 2016, 04:52:32 PM
Today's ur story rocked! TeamNahiri
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 06, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
Link?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 06, 2016, 06:59:27 PM
Holy shyt. Wrecked.

I don't see a world where Nahiri isn't public enemy number one after this but...

TEAM NAHIRI! She's so badass.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on July 06, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
I don't think she's a bad person at all. She condemned a plane to die other than her own. Given the circumstances at hand that sorin was the cause of it all basically by locking her away for a thousand years and causing all this mess I believe it should be his plane that gets wrecked for it. Not someone else's who was a victim of the eldrazi circumstance her entire existence(Nahiri).
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 06, 2016, 09:48:41 PM
But her plane was saved, I'm sorry you don't just doom a civilization and still be a good person
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Codester1991 on July 06, 2016, 10:44:45 PM
Sorin did, and it was saved by pulling away Emrakul as well as killing the other Titans.
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 06, 2016, 11:00:35 PM
Uh he was on zendikar along with the guys who freed them accidently, then he went looking for ugin,

Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking sides here, but they were both wrong, I just think she's far more wrong
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Nephalia on July 07, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
New enchant card spoiled shows Emmy in the moon. Looks like the gatewatch and tamiyo lock her up. Bolas approves?
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 07, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
Can y'all like make this a Reddit thing

Cuz for real
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 07, 2016, 03:46:10 PM
Please do, I've already screencapped to share with my lgs community
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: Kaylesh on July 09, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
ERB of MtG!

You both will be missed :'(
Title: Re: The thread in which we discuss lore
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on July 09, 2016, 02:37:44 PM
We sorta have done this already, rap battle between planeswalkers.  It's on the art thread somewhere