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Title: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Indianslayer on August 18, 2015, 05:42:16 AM
(Hoping no one has posted this)
What you need for this is:
{Nissa, Worldwake}
{The Chain Veil}
{Ral Zarek}
4x {Forest}


Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Deebiia on August 18, 2015, 05:49:03 AM
Quote from: Indianslayer on August 18, 2015, 05:42:16 AM
(Hoping no one has posted this)
What you need for this is:
{Nissa, Worldwake}
{The Chain Veil}
{Ral Zarek}
4x {Forest}



Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
That's awesome. I believe this works too, especially since {The Chain Veil}'s wording is "as if no loyalty abilities has been activated this turn".
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on August 18, 2015, 06:44:59 AM
Seems totally legit.
To actually profit, add another walker or finish up with ult of Nissa & Ral..
(Hi there infinite turns & animated forests)
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 18, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
You can also use {Tezzeret, the Seeker} instead of {Ral Zarek}.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Balefire Hellkite on August 19, 2015, 07:38:48 AM
Holy crap this is awesome!
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on August 19, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 18, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
You can also use {Tezzeret, the Seeker} instead of {Ral Zarek}.
In fact, you could even use {aphetto alchemist} + {illusionist's bracers} for the untap.
However, infinite +1 into extra turns is sweet synergy.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: LinkToThePast on August 24, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Add {Ugin, The Spirit Dragon} to the mix for Infinate damage

Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Deal 3 damage with Ugin's +2
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on August 24, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
Quote from: LinkToThePast on August 24, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Add {Ugin, The Spirit Dragon} to the mix for Infinate damage

Steps:
1. Tap 4 forests
2. Untap forests with Nissa's +1
3. Deal 3 damage with Ugin's +2
3. Activate chain veil
4. Untap chain veil with Ral's +1
5. Start over at step 1. until you are satisfied
Could even add ORI Chandra. Cheaper on mana, though a bit more effort in flipping.
But any PW will do, since every one of them has infinite activations.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: particle on August 24, 2015, 09:02:46 AM
Ran this in standard for a while while it was legal. {zhur-ta druid} wrecked so much face and {realmwright} turned all my lands into forests so {Nissa, worldwaker} got a lot better. What a fun deck. I think I actually got the combo off only like 5-6 times, sometimes just winning with {Kiora, crashing waves} and lots of counter and bounce, (miss you <3 {simic charm}).  {ral zarek} is also kind of op.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: theravenseye on August 25, 2015, 12:44:18 AM
Time to build Temur Bullcrap
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Elisha72 on September 05, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target 
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on September 05, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: Elisha72 on September 05, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target
So? Then you tap Ral and untap veil. You can tap any permanent on the field.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: griffin131 on September 05, 2015, 10:47:48 PM
Quote from: Elisha72 on September 05, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Sorry the Text is
+1:  says tap an untapped target , then may untapped target
What text?  That's not what Ral says at all - there's no "may".
And it's not like that text changes anything.

Second, what bearing does your comment have on the thread?
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 06, 2015, 12:40:00 PM
Actually that's not the text. You can tap an already tapped permanent. Nowhere in his text does it say "tap an untapped permanent". Of course it just makes sense to tap down your opponents board state instead.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: TheronEpic on March 26, 2016, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: theravenseye on August 25, 2015, 12:44:18 AM
Time to build Temur Bullcrap
Language!
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 05, 2016, 03:21:10 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 27, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
There are a ton of walkers that can kill players
Sorin Markov can infinite kill a player
Chandra in her many forms can kill players... actually, every single one can. It keeps it on color too for a temur deck
Obnixilis can kill players
Kiora can create infonite emblems making infinite leviathan
Even the temur Sarkan can kill
{Ajani Vengeant} bro! Get super creative!
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Ember_Primrose on May 01, 2016, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 27, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
There are a ton of walkers that can kill players
Sorin Markov can infinite kill a player
Chandra in her many forms can kill players... actually, every single one can. It keeps it on color too for a temur deck
Obnixilis can kill players
Kiora can create infonite emblems making infinite leviathan
Even the temur Sarkan can kill

Or humiliate them with {Jace, Memory Adept}
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Co2 on May 07, 2016, 08:12:34 AM
A very sweet combo. All planewalker will do as final kill. Time for tibalt to shine !
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kmodad444 on August 25, 2016, 09:38:26 AM
This also works with sol ring, RAL, Tez and chain vail
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on August 25, 2016, 08:00:19 PM
Quote from: Kmodad444 on August 25, 2016, 09:38:26 AM
This also works with {sol ring},  {Ral Zarek}, {Tezzeret the Seeker} and {the chain veil}

1) tap Sol
2) +1 ral, untap Sol.
3) tap sol
4) activate veil.
5) +1 tez, untapping both.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kmodad444 on August 29, 2016, 10:10:54 AM
This also works with {garruk Wildspeaker} in place of {ral zarek}
Tap sol ring tap 2 lands
Activate chain veil
Use Tez to untap vail + sol
Garruk to Untap 2 lands
Rinse and repeat
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kaylesh on August 30, 2016, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: Kmodad444 on August 29, 2016, 10:10:54 AM
This also works with {garruk Wildspeaker} in place of {ral zarek}
Tap sol ring tap 2 lands
Activate chain veil
Use Tez to untap vail + sol
Garruk to Untap 2 lands
Rinse and repeat
If you use a land that taps for more then {1}, you could even net yourself infinite mana.
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Kmodad444 on September 06, 2016, 11:24:23 AM
Any 2 of {sarkhan unbroken} { Kiora, master of the depths} {koth of the hammer} will add 2 mana or even {Xenagos, the reveler} with a few creatures out with Tez, sol ring and the vail works
Title: Re: Infinite Loyalty Abilities
Post by: Indianslayer on December 11, 2016, 06:02:51 AM
Haha just won with this on untap with a modern deck built around this idea, it was fun =P